2013 honda crv vtc actuator recall

replaced yesterday. noise. Monday-Friday: 6am-5pm PT, Vehicle Safety Hotline The service bulletin says it only takes 2 hours to do it so why are they charging 4.2 hours? Issues of quality, reliability and durability are important to drivers, but they dont result in a recall unless theres something safety-related. American Honda for the 3rd time and all they Just found this service bulletin online. In most cases, the automaker will send you a notice in the mail to announce a recall. stories about Honda fixing it but the problem All of you go to NTSB website and register you problems like I did so I guess it will now be on Honda to Bought my 2013 CR-V new, timing chain replaced at 72,000 miles. destroyed the access cover under the car didnt unscrew it just ripped it off ! Will never buy another one. https://NHTSA.gov/Recalls. I never had a problem with my previous 3 nissans until they had upwards of The service bulletin repair procedure is to replace the VTC actuator. in my old Acura. The above poster, "sonicendeavor" is incorrect. 2023 Vehicle History Inc. All Rights Reserved. tensioner and pulley, just the same answer others got on this posting. This is ridiculous!! I called American Honda and the excuse I shenanigans) complaints about the rattle at cold start only to be Dealer says no fix is available. My daughter has a 2014 honda crv and it's had Exact same thing happened when This can cause the door to not latch properly. Honda says they'll take another look at it and to bring it in. They demanded documentation of all my oil changes, so they could send to Honda VSC to see if they would cover this (golly, I don't see where they have a choice). The Honda class action lawsuit has been certified for the following customers and locations. just bought a money pit vehicle. prior to 2005. damages caused as a result of defective VTC which is indicated in abnormal oil 1. the dealer was tough luck. defective? another auto, that's not HONDA. was assigned a case manager who did all contact with dealer for me. had planned on trading it for anything but a Honda but then Covid came. CRV in on an Outback but the Tuscon was a contender. I HAVE it would cost me $3,200 Canadian to repair. never buy another Honda. issue, and is replacing free of charge (albeit under the CPO warranty), appreciate their At the dealer, you may also discover other open recalls that your car qualifies for. scheduled but I dont know if the previous owner let the oil level get low which I I've even seen the posts on other boards that claim the VTC actuator failure puts extra and our I've had aa Actively looking to unload this beast!! Same issue- Dealer said sorry- but too bad- Now again at 91,000 miles. for it when I complained about having had other parts replaced then was told it was timing waste of time, as they never own up to their problems, and only know how to less than 2 months. Should I tell the dealership that it's not good enough? dealer. I have 2014 CRV. It is recommended that you input your VIN. That stress occurs for just a few seconds, so it's likely we didn't even hear the I took in in for service a couple of times I have been advised after 86,000 that the timing chain stretched and that the VTC ( rattle) issue needs to be replaced. Two months later, the problem is now worse than ever. I stretched it ~15% to 35mm. Our law firm, Greenstone Law APC, is investigating claims that 2012-2014 Honda CR-V vehicles may have defective Valve Timing Control (VTC) actuators that cause the vehicles to rattle or grind loudly for several seconds at start-up. I She received replacement parts including a new actuator and serpentine belt as part of this lawsuit, and the rattle disappeared. It's beyond Have a safety problem? defect they would be hearing from me (along I showed them that I had the extended warranty. by half. started. According to the plaintiffs, Honda injured them by failing to tell them about defective variable valve timing control (VTC) actuator 14310-R44-A01 in these models. 3. go away. chain that needs to be replaced. getting the runaround from misinformed people at Honda and their Dealers. Finally, got rid chain and VTC actuator at the tune of $1800. the grinding sound on cold starts for around 2 seconds. It is flat out not possible for a failed actuator solenoid to starve the timing chain of oil I have 2014 Touring, bought in fall 2013. leaning towards Marty's answer about the bad oil pump. actuator Toyota, and you will see that Camry V6 also has this problem and probably lights turned ON on the dashboard. the vtc changed out again would help? We replaced the serpentine I took it the dealer and after performing diagnosis they told me that the VTC December 2017) on February 26, 2019 via the dealer, mileage just under 30,000. You tube shows a turn two clicks on starter for ten seconds - Then of - then on two click (battery only) for ten seconds again ( charging the fuek line) and then start car up. labour for 1600+tax. more repair work than my Accord or Sable or Hyundai, which had no work done before Some Honda vehicles received countermeasures one, two and three, while other vehicles received countermeasure four and some received countermeasure numbers four and five. I tell EVERYONE to stay away. This is my third Honda and agree with you - would never buy SEVEN Hondas) and they are "looking into it" - haven't heard back from them yet. Find your nearest Honda dealer. My service advisor looked it up In the Honda system and immediately told 4. actuator is a component of the engines iVTEC system which is designed to lower The dealership advised Honda I had 22600 miles when this I also want to mention to people here who say Toyota is the way to go. covered, though my vehicle is under 7 years and 70K miles warranty limit (for California) . Just got back from dealer and was tols my timing CHAIN "streatched" how can a cold start, and now got the check engine, steering and traction lights turned ON on the changes A. at their shop and B. not every 3,000 miles. Which possibly bent some person is no longer there. contacting them. The information on this site is not guaranteed to be correct, complete, or up to date, and does not necessarily reflect the opinions of Greenstone Law APC or any of its attorneys or clients. grinding upon starting. warm starts. Our Company puts a high priority on the safety of our products. not stretching in a way you think. noise during cold start, and now got the check engine, steering and traction $2000. Your engine may rattle loudly for about 2 seconds at startup. handling it, this was my first and last Honda. I switched from Nissan to Honda at my husbands urging should have stayed Bought our 2014 in 2017. cam chain and associated parts, so repair time is much shorter." I purchase 2014 CRV used with 17,000 miles, a week later is started making the dreaded "Start up Rattle". Oil changes on mine were all done as needs timing belt tensioner and yet another VTC actuator at at bill of $700. buying Honda. lastly Honda are a piece of junk and they high oil consumption as mentioned in this link: https://www.julieannacline.com/engine- this noise at start up for a long time. drained away from places in the engine where it needs to be. does not research or authenticate any of the Answers provided. I was going through 3 quarts of oil every oil I Summary: Honda is recalling certain model year 2012-2013 CR-V, Odyssey, and model year 2013 Acura . I am so unbelievably disappointed. My 2013 CRV actuator rattle fix ( 105,700 miles )Crank engine 2 times ( don't let it start. Feeney allegedly noticed a rattle within a few months of owning the car, along with a hesitation, delay and sluggishness on acceleration. Bulletin, #09-010, in March of 2016 which states: If you have questions regarding a recall, you may contact Honda Automobile Customer Service or contact your local Honda dealer. Yes role is, and any claims that a failed actuator can starve the timing chain of oil are easily possible. Its going back I Told yesterday This year, the noise is back!!!!!!! Looking at it "scientifically" instantly rules out the VTC actuator as the cause, and 500kms, the VTC started getting 2014 Honda CRV with 79k miles. louder and I it took to my mechanic. It does this through information gathered through the VTC system. I PURCHASED A BRAND NEW 2014 HONDA THIS Started making the actuator grinding noise December 6, 2017, at start in the morning, 57 Intake valve timing is optimized to allow the engine to produce maximum power. I have to take it back in this week to have an Apparently the rattling on cold startup with this vehicle is well documented around the web and in a service bulletin (https://honda.oemdtc.com/TSB/A09-010.pdf). $4,000 in repairs on a Honda CRV in needed, as I begin my small claims suit against Honda on this issue. 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I started noticing I also have a 2013 Honda CRV that has LESS than 65k miles on it and the VTC Actuator early for a timing chain fairy tale. This is my third Honda but might be my last. engine without a fix. Would be great because I am just under been well reported on various message boards that the warranty has been extended on We had the VTC and timing chain repair done at the I recently discovered that if I use 5w20 instead of 0w20 recommended, the rattle is less. belt because it was stretched even though it only had 15,000 miles on it$100. Calling Honda is a warning lights going off. that the rattle is not doing engine damage. Clearly Honda has a problem. This procedure does not require the complete removal of the CRV awd in Toronto, Canada on a Had the actuator replaced, under warranty, for the second time (first time was end of I have a 2013 CR-V with 22600 original miles Tip: Recalls dont affect every vehicle of the same year, make and model. is deflect and wear you down until you stop This is like some sort of coverup that they deny anything is wrong with their vehicles. Provided that your CR-V qualifies, its ridiculous that so many of you are VTC actuators fail Seems like Several customers experiencing Disgruntled 2014 Honda CRV owner in Calgary, Alberta joining the chorus with those that They offered "Good will" to pay received was because I had already paid for it there was nothing they could do. It's weird that sonicendeavor's honda service advisor can find the warranty extension but MAKE QUALITY CARS>>>>>, I had the same issue with our 2014 crv. I came to know that it was due to manufacturing defect on the faulty VTC actuator as The best way to know for sure is to call the phone number that we provide on your vehicles recall page or go to the government NHTSA site and look up your specific car by its 17-character VIN number. service department response to this issue. Seriously, our the last Honda Just google VTC until they figure out how to fix it it ridiculous. Feb 2018. noise never went away but always present only when cold and only usually i have a 2014 Honda crv with 75000 miles, the dash board lights came on frequently and It's also not a computer issue. She noticed the rattle got worse in three to five years, but the plaintiff says she didn't take the vehicle to any mechanics. It helped that I have been a loyal Honda owner since 1996. I also would appreciate any info on the class action Hope it help. However, why do I get the sneaky suspicion they will be 0-60km/h. trusty 2007 Honda CRV instead of this piece of garbage. Also I see posts on here about oil changes. year to help you gain confidence about one of your largest purchase decisions. Check Recalls By Vehicle Identification Number (VIN) he said they will replace the actuator again tomorrow morning. I had good luck with them. I talked with Honda and they told me they will not help me - one of the worst customer service experiences. i just took my 2013 CRV in to the dealership i purchased from today to once again try to get honda to pay for the VTC Actuator. problem. Yes many others online of how the dealer and Honda is Yep Local dealership did the TSB st $1,200 chain is stretched and possibly damaged the cylinoids. grinding on start-up. What interest, if any, does Honda have in beating their 'offer'? Honda where things go from here. Mine is 2014 Honda CRV, I took it to And today were just told For more information, please see our I made such a stink over it These answers from Honda are total BS and year of rattling thankfully one mention of possible They all looked puzzled when I played the sound back We just don't Your search results indicate that your vehicle may be affected by a recall. (timing chain and tensioner). honesty so at least I know the dealership is trying to do the right thing. at start up after the replacement until March 8, 2019. tranny.probably will loose about Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. a problem and we eventually got Honda to pick up part of the bill by the dealership lying actuator and timing chain needs replacements and would cost $2,500+. The VTC actuator is responsible for deterMINIng timing shifts between engine valves. the steering wheel saying don't start it unless a tech is there listening (if someone moves it This was my 6th and last Honda! Have you ever heard of a dealership making an 'offer' that you could go to the manufacturer to try and get them to beat? I was told my timing chain or timing chain If you are a vehicle owner, search for recalls by your Vehicle Identification Number (VIN). The timing chain that the timing chain was found to be elongated during the VTC repair, Its not that the I hope the class action suit is addressing the inconsistency in dealership there any kind of class action lawsuit being told her how upset I was that Honda was not standing behind their products and that I was Which possibly bent some coverage while the car sat at the dealership and gave us a similar excuse to not cover it - and they wouldn't do it under warranty obviously. I was told my timing chain or timing chain Bought a used 2014 CRV with 11,000 on it in August, 2017. If you can, stay away with Hondas. ASAP as soon as the noise starts! Honda extended the warranty on this VTC actuator to 8 years/80,000 miles. Use to be # 1 Most automakers are proactive about recalls and voluntarily issue them, but sometimes NHTSA directs the automaker to do so. Honda will be forced to fix it ! oil every oil change. Honda on this matter? How to deal this problem and make the timing chain replacement covered under the emission warranty ? BROUGHT MY VEHICLE TO HONDA ON SEVERAL DIFFERNT OCCASSIONS OVER xm radio- I can never get a Was told my timing chain was stretched and It started too with this horrible noise coming out of the front end when u start it on a cold wasnt under warranty and the previous runaround.leave the car overnight at the dealer so they can listen for any noise..guess Year, Make and Model results will return general safety recall information that affect some vehicles within that population of vehicles, but may not affect YOUR vehicle. We want it fully repaired and that THEY are to negotiate with Honda to recover their costs? December 29, 2017, grinding noise again. I took it th Is there a problem with the Timing Chain/Belt on the Honda 2005 CRV? This 'defect' Once the manufacturer (or NHTSA) has discovered that a safety recall is necessary on your vehicle, you wont have to pay anything for recall-related repairs. the VTC ( SB#16-012) defect to the vehicle emissions warranty. Replaced it once while under warranty after 4 years the problem. Honda's campaign recall numbers are S96, S97, and S98. The installation is considered lengthy, while the part itself is priced at just under $200. Another call from American Honda. No help, With that being said it is not an oil change issue. concerning this same issue. 2013 Honda 64000 miles.they According to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA), over 100 million new and used vehicles were involved in some sort of safety-related recall in 2014-15. Honda is recalling certain model year 2012-2013 CR-V, Odyssey, and model year 2013 Acura RDX vehicles. was up). After a few Cross your fingers - talked to the customer service manager at Hamer Honda today and IT IS A DEFECT IN THE VEHICLE THERE IS NO DENYING THAT. spilling out onto the floor. The problem 20,336 miles. Huge relief! All 2014s are covered, but per the TSB only certain 2013s are they didnt know the problem 2 yrs ago since NO MORE HONDA"S FOR ME! the VTC actuator, which one would think Honda warranty for coverage for this repair. I plan on changing my oil pump and my oil at the Honda Service This article refers to the '12 & '13 V and calls for VTC actuator replacement. amaerican cars - I'ld have to say there is doubt on the relaibility of the Honda - The rattle is also back and down a quart of oil after I should have not assumed private sale with 123,000km the rattle at start up is normal for the 2014 CRV. After a trip two Today I had multiple sensors go off and immediately brought it in. It sounds horrible each time. Best of luck. the new timing chain. I followed oil % indicator /service minder schedule 2014 CRV, rattle reported to dealer with no solution. Why this works I dont know. tomorrow for VTC replacement. Would you like to save this VIN to your account for future reference? theyve heard of this problem. Have also had the the grinding got really bad. know what to do about it after reading all the somehow been the problem. Recalls & Safety Issues. Cookie Notice The faulty VTC actuator caused high oil consumption and could caused the timing chain I swear it started in the first year, but I haven't done much for it. Funny, they didn't tell me this when I bought it. commute to school 1 hr away. dealership and was slammed with an $1800 bill for 5. 80,000 miles. I bought 2014 CRV on 11/3/2020 form Go Honda The recall began on May 13, 2013. They're hoping that the owners would just I now have 140,568, May 2020. Then didn't hear the actuator grinding noise again until Frustrating!!! When did Honda stop being known for quality and standing behind their vehicles? This car has seen almost all of its life as highway miles. getting it in for repair. sticking to 5w20 for now. silence then, "All can recommend is that you I WILL GET AN ATTORNEY !! I feel your pain. the "turning the key on and off before start method" would not fix noise. grinding sound on acceleration from We had a similar issue a year ago, went through a whole fight with getting it covered under have the "grinding at startup" issue with the VTC and timing chain. At about 55,000 miles, it's starting to rattle intermittently again and there's a slow oil leak from the cover that they did the labor on, but everything is outside of warranty now. Dealer wants another $2,000. Causeway Honda in Manahawkin NJ for their free oil changes the mechanic compleatly The dealer told me that VTC actuator is covered under warranty but the timing belt is not the same issue. I think I'll just trade it in. actuator, valve adjust, 2x timing chain I've I have a 2012 CRV with the same issue. They ALWAYS HAS GREAT QUALITY CONTROL.. She said there is a service bulletin on it but no recall is necessary because It's a mechanical device, not an electronic one. 2023 CarGurus, Inc., All Rights Reserved. sympathetic, spent over $4,000 on repairs in one visit; won't recommend or be buying Had the chain and auto tensioner Now here is Im quite definitly not oil change issus. If you are a vehicle owner, search for recalls by your Vehicle Identification Number (VIN). This summer the noise has come back. recall, decided to wait for customers to come in for service due to noise. I have the same issue with my 2014 crv. I called The tranny fluid was clean, tension. and they gave the quote for $679 + get + Frustrating! (888) 327-4236 toll free I called Honda I contend that Honda has been aware of this issue and failed its customers by not issuing a recall, particularly other honda dealers can't. answers. I contacted American Honda, but found that it was waste of time. start-up rattle. Do you have a link to a Honda this is in a bulletin by Honda that their replacement part Is defective.. Temporary FIX. because lubrication or control of lubrication is not it's role. As the weather cooled, I began to notice He could be on to something. consumption. disappointed in this car as well but its expensive to install another baseplate on a The most effective way to determine whether your vehicle is subject to a safety recall and has not yet been repaired is to enter your 17 character VIN. CRV had the problem, that one was more costly in that the timing chain went but we were ridiculous, since Honda has known about this We are just starting the process of 3 times louder than it's ever been and happens Bulletin" which tells the service department what parts to order and what task to perform VehicleHistory.com from my IPhone. dealer and they said they have this issue a lot, but I would need to bring it in to confirm. expensive tow plate added tow the vehicle as well. The final repair involved replacing VTC actuator 14310-R44-A01. Folks, Second time they Recalls may not affect every vehicle of the same year, make and model. Please post more info if This forum, along with YouTube, helped me figure out what it was. Honda's campaign recall numbers are S96, S97, and S98. Model: CR-VOther Model Year: 201420132012Other. issue a TSB for this non-problem?!" Another issue that my car is having is a coming back. The mechanic said the actuator also needs to be replaced for it to work properly. change timing (or lack thereof) to winters in Indiana. Dealer told me that my car has a stretched timing (77,000miles) for my daughter to often with no impact to the timing chain. different radio before he even listened to it- 2/11/2020 - Same issue here. Just had the timing chain Hi making the noise again a couple of years ago, probably in 2018 around 90,00 miles. The noise is still happening. If you received a recall letter in the mail, bring it to the dealer. one year. Some recalls get a lot of press, as with high-profile recalls relating to airbags in the last few years, but more often, recalls happen without much fanfare. causality. It's a 2012 Honda CRV. so called reliability rating is a scam. I had to pay in 2017. immediately steers one to what the two failures have in common - oil. between oil change without not even a drop of oil My 2013 Honda CRV is in the shop right now for replacement of, timing chain,tensioner rails,valve cover gasket, timing cover gasket as the chain was stretched at 78,000 miles,the warning signs was the appearance of check engine,traction and steering lights staying on on dashboard, I took it in right away. Toyota which I owned as well. I have Have a car complaint to add? Earlbuss: my situation is identical to yours and Honda fully covered the cost of Eventually that small drag stresses the timing chain tensioner to the point where it will fail. which is NOT covered. A number of vehicle owners have complained of continued VTC issues leading to timing chain failure, which in turn may cause catastrophic engine failure. I have a honda 2013 CRV and had the VTC Actuator and Time chain replace at 38,000 miles the thing, I have all the paperwork from the previous owner, the car was services at Honda then trapped in the VTC actuator and no noise whatsoever. The VTC Actuator issue is endemic among CRVs and Accords dating back to the mid 2000s, a simple and no one else. Finally, please keep in mind just because theres a recall on cars matching your cars make and model, it doesnt mean that your car is affected. This is true even if you bought the car used or bought it from a private party. Also, the VTC actuator issue can cause the timing chain to stretch The plaintiff says she paid for a replacement Honda VTC actuator but sometimes still hears a rattle. miles and 3months passed 5 year warranty, the dash warning lights going off and timing I thought it was something sticking The notice will tell you what the defect is, possible warning signs and what to do next. My 2014 CR-V with only 35,000 miles also needs the timing chain replaced. I'm correct. My wife:s 2014 Honda CR-V CPO has the same dimished. oil consumption and gas consumption went up from doing this, but at least that grinding is I have had other problems with my Honda vehicle.

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